Comments on: The Hope Conspiracy – True Nihilist http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:58:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Sean May http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-1220 Sean May Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:42:30 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-1220 Hope Con > hardcore > ETID. Hope Con > hardcore > ETID.

]]> By: bugu http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-128 bugu Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:49:16 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-128 Hm, I think they're equally relevant. Though, you seem to know your stuff, other people may not, which is where using other bands as reference can come in handy. Perhaps you'd enjoy reading me rant about the evolution of Hope Con haha (granted I wouldn't mind writing it), but the way I see it, my role is to give an outline of the release. It doesn't necessarily have to be brief, but when it's a 3 song EP we're talking about, I think it would be pretty unnecessary to write an essay. By all means write your own, but feel free to discuss as well :) Hm, I think they're equally relevant. Though, you seem to know your stuff, other people may not, which is where using other bands as reference can come in handy.
Perhaps you'd enjoy reading me rant about the evolution of Hope Con haha (granted I wouldn't mind writing it), but the way I see it, my role is to give an outline of the release. It doesn't necessarily have to be brief, but when it's a 3 song EP we're talking about, I think it would be pretty unnecessary to write an essay.
By all means write your own, but feel free to discuss as well :)

]]> By: Begley http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-124 Begley Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:33:23 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-124 Understandable. I guess my point was that it seems irrelevant and uninteresting that a bands "part" sounds similar to another bands part. Perhaps the bands evolution and contribution to a genre of music is arguably more important and relevant in both the smaller and grander scope of things. I guess I should just leave you alone and write my own reviews. hah! Understandable. I guess my point was that it seems irrelevant and uninteresting that a bands "part" sounds similar to another bands part. Perhaps the bands evolution and contribution to a genre of music is arguably more important and relevant in both the smaller and grander scope of things. I guess I should just leave you alone and write my own reviews. hah!

]]> By: bugu http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-113 bugu Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:58:58 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-113 The reason I bring up bands like the ones I did, is because as a reviewer I want to get modern music out there, and these bands deserve to be recognized. Also, it's a perfectly legitimate frame of reference. Just because MLIW are younger it doesn't exempt them from being influential, and since when are bands not influenced by modern music? Tons of bands will mention new music they like, and to say that only older music influences them is ridiculous...I mean you can't always control what you're influenced by when you're writing music. You seem to be thinking more along the lines of bands that molded their sound, when I was just making reference to a similar sounding part that another band incorporates. Obviously in the case of both the bands I mentioned, they didn't "create" that sound or anything, they just also use it, so it serves as a sort of convenient point of reference. The reason I bring up bands like the ones I did, is because as a reviewer I want to get modern music out there, and these bands deserve to be recognized.
Also, it's a perfectly legitimate frame of reference. Just because MLIW are younger it doesn't exempt them from being influential, and since when are bands not influenced by modern music? Tons of bands will mention new music they like, and to say that only older music influences them is ridiculous…I mean you can't always control what you're influenced by when you're writing music.
You seem to be thinking more along the lines of bands that molded their sound, when I was just making reference to a similar sounding part that another band incorporates. Obviously in the case of both the bands I mentioned, they didn't "create" that sound or anything, they just also use it, so it serves as a sort of convenient point of reference.

]]> By: yoar_therapuuust http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-108 yoar_therapuuust Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:13:53 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-108 well, the analysis does not explicitly state that they are influenced by the aforementioned bands. Keep in mind that this is a review, intended to shed light on facets of the particular sound by comparison with other musical peers. MLIW owe a lot of their style to Hope Con, (and ETID formed a year earlier then Hope Con, releasing their first ep just before "Cold Blue") but they are labelmates and as such, deserve the frame of reference. I myself try to avoid comparing a bands sound to others as a single means of description, but I think it works just fine here. A kid from Alaska whose record store only had Hot Damn! may be inclined to give Hope Con some money via this review. Cheers well, the analysis does not explicitly state that they are influenced by the aforementioned bands. Keep in mind that this is a review, intended to shed light on facets of the particular sound by comparison with other musical peers. MLIW owe a lot of their style to Hope Con, (and ETID formed a year earlier then Hope Con, releasing their first ep just before "Cold Blue") but they are labelmates and as such, deserve the frame of reference. I myself try to avoid comparing a bands sound to others as a single means of description, but I think it works just fine here. A kid from Alaska whose record store only had Hot Damn! may be inclined to give Hope Con some money via this review. Cheers

]]> By: Begley http://hearwaxmedia.com/919/the-hope-conspiracy-true-nihilist/comment-page-1#comment-107 Begley Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:56:14 +0000 http://hearwaxmedia.com/?p=919#comment-107 "to an Every Time I Die-like main riff that is fast and relentless. The album slows down on “The Dismal Tide”, but steadily builds to a climax reminiscent of Modern Life is War" Do you REALLY think a band full of guys in their mid 30's who were on tour and releasing material in 1999 are influenced by bands like Modern Life Is War who were probably in high school then? Is a "build up" really a Modern Life Is War type of thing? What the fuck is an "Every Time I Die-like riff"? Does that actually mean anything? Does any reviewer out there listen to music that was around before myspace? Nothing against either of those two bands but is there no better frame of legitimate reference? "to an Every Time I Die-like main riff that is fast and relentless. The album slows down on “The Dismal Tide”, but steadily builds to a climax reminiscent of Modern Life is War"

Do you REALLY think a band full of guys in their mid 30's who were on tour and releasing material in 1999 are influenced by bands like Modern Life Is War who were probably in high school then? Is a "build up" really a Modern Life Is War type of thing? What the fuck is an "Every Time I Die-like riff"? Does that actually mean anything? Does any reviewer out there listen to music that was around before myspace? Nothing against either of those two bands but is there no better frame of legitimate reference?

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